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Re: Nationals Sonoma Wreck 9 years, 5 months ago #18610

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Here's the first lap of Saturday's Qualifying Race from my viewpoint, lots of action for sure.


#44 Alberto Fonseca
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Re: Nationals Sonoma Wreck 9 years, 5 months ago #18640

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I see two close calls that in my opinion were a 50/50 fault.
The first is at T2 with Javier and Hicks. Hicks did not have good overlap and did not present his car well enough to be sure to be seen. Javier did not know Hicks was there partly due to awareness and lack of presentation. Javier did not leave the required 3/4 car width for Hicks.

The same situation at T 4 but between Javier and Alberto. There was a failure of Alberto to get fully along side in the attempted pass to be easily seen. And Javier did not have the awareness to know Alberto moved into his blind spot. The result was the same, Javier took the apex and did not leave the 3/4 car width.

I cant tell if contact occurred between any of the cars.

Again this is just my opinion/observation.

I am of the opion that everyone has a portion of responsibility in every incident. Sometimes its 50/50 sometimes its 90/10.
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Re: Nationals Sonoma Wreck 9 years, 5 months ago #18646

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After watching Alberto's video I fail to see why Mr. Hicks said it was clearly his corner. Overlapping front to rear bumpers isn't even close. T2 at Sonoma is a notorious car crusher....anyone looking to go three wide through there is not showing very good judgement in my opinion. I will be coaching Javier next year to improve his race craft for the future so I have watched the available videos at his behest. He clearly needs to stop making go kart type moves and leave his competitors more room, but I have to say that the driving standards shown in the various videos leave a lot of room for improvement for a lot of the competitors. No comment about the re-entry of the silver car on the left after T5? Did that look like a safe or proper re-entry to the track after driving off in the dirt?

Re: Nationals Sonoma Wreck 9 years, 5 months ago #18647

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Keeping in mind that we are all amatures and we are going to have a wide variation of driving skill sets.

It is everyones responsibility to control their car and have as much awareness about our surroundings as possible.

In high profile races the tension gets racheted up, everyone drives more aggressively and low percentage passes get attempted more frequently. We have to remember to keep calm and make good decisions, something that is very difficult to do in this situation.

The silver car appears to have a braking problem or miss judges the entry. I suspect a braking problem because at the next corner T6 his car has a big wiggle at the braking zone. The re-entry to the racing surface should have been done with less throttle. Fortunately there was no contact.
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Re: Nationals Sonoma Wreck 9 years, 5 months ago #18648

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The perspective is all wrong with those videos. What I saw starting next to Javier and right behind Jim was that first I thought Javier jumped the start. I don't know this to be fact but I remember him going before anybody else. I saw him go around Ken and then make a few feignts towards the apex of two and then a dramatic turn down. My video shows them almost completely side by side with Jim slightly ahead at first but Javier getting about a 2 foot lead. I know a lot has been said about inadequate mirrors and not knowing someone is alongside you but if you can no longer see a car you are passing or are in close proximity to one of two things are happening. A;the car is being pulled back to the mothership by a tractorbeam from space or B;he'sstill there and you drive accordingly. The question is what you think "accordingly" means. I know I leave a car width or more but it is very apparent others don't.

Greg is both right and wrong about turn 2 eating cars.It is a tough place to pass 2 wide, let alone 3 but it can be done safely if people drive correctly and courteously. Corners don't kill cars drivers do!

What I took away from this race was that when the stakes are higher people lose perspective. The aggresive driving was startling. I too was forced into the dirt at 2 on saturday because drivers thought it ok to go three wide and not leaving any room for others. What I see when I watch Alberto's video is that while there isat least a car width or more to his outside I am going 4 off on the inside because we are three wide. I was the faster car with the better starting position but was shown zero respect and had to take to the dirt to avoid a big pileup because of poor decisions of others. My car was never right after finding that big hole in the dirt and it ruined my weekend. Fridays race I got chopped so many times by a certain car that I took to bump drafting to get my point across. I was so angry that I considered pushing all the way into 2 which would have been trouble but thought better of it and backed off.

I'm not sure what can be done to curb this but it definitely will weigh in my decision to run national events going forward.

Re: Nationals Sonoma Wreck 9 years, 5 months ago #18652

Maybe next year any contact sits you out of the next race, fault or no (short of being collected in a melee?).

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