Can we get a head count of how many guys do not have any toyos to run on?

It seems like if there is any possibility to maintain the contingency program and delay the purchase of non-toyo tires, it would be better for the class.

If this is a small number maybe others in the group can shuffle their supplies to get these guys on the road for a few races.

It realy varies. We have tires for the Az runners (just bought up 3 sets on Saturday). At least most of us. Some other areas have no tires for anyone.

As far as contingency we are talking with John Lindsey who is working with Toyo. No specifics yet.

I have a car for sale with 10 good RA-1,s mounted and balanced.

As well as 4 BFG R1's mounted and balanced.

Tires are $11,500 includes very fast car and spares package.

cbuzzetti wrote:



The tires might sell the car! Buy 10 tires and get a free car!

BTW... Re-pricing.. We cannot control other suppliers however lets also be respectfull of each other and not try to gouge on pricing. Yes when supply gets tight prices go up, but remember we also need to support each other where we can.

Current normal retail of RA-1 is $165 each (not mounted, not shaved) as of 4/1/11 That does not included any availability premiums. Use this as baseline for when you get tires.

That works out to less than a $1,000 per tire if you include the BFG's

The car is absolutly free at this price. hahahaha

First off, thank-you for your efforts on the issue John & Eric.
Being a support/ build shop we unfortunately end up spending more time under cars and under hoods than on the boards, but the "+7" carry-over certainly sounds like the best option to keep the door open for Toyo once their unfortunate issues are resolved. There is no reason to abandon a comapny that has offered such an appealing contingeny program for the class.

When it comes down to racers that dont have tires in our region, I currently have 20 tires on back order with our supplier. Yes, there are some racers that have a set that may last 1-2 weekends, but what do they do after that? This becomes a very large issue for us as a shop that now transports and supports 3 year long arrive and drive cars PLUS a rental car that has proved itself very well in drawing new drivers into the class.

As someone that is constantly sourcing parts for our drivers, I have to agree that the 16" rim should not be an option for a "budget" race class. Sure having one set for enduro racing in E2 is one thing, but trying to source enough for a primary race set, backups, & rain tires becomes costly.

We have already commited to a rental for the comp school at the first Midwest Autobahn weekend. If anyone in the region would like to mount a set of the victoracers for some tire testing on Friday (if allowed) we will have an additional trackmate unit on hand as well as Longacre treadware & pressure gauges as well as pyrometers (and Nitrogen service) available to compare these tires to the Toyo RA1s if some baseline data is desired.

All I ask for is a heads up a couple days before so we don't have to scramble at the track!

-Nick Miller
Bennington Motorsports