OK, this is getting more fussy than need be, but lets use the dynos done Nationals for comparison, not the ones done later, after more tuning, and a change to thinner oil.

At Nationals, we changed out computers on the dyno to check for compliance. We did find one aftermarket chip doing this (honest mistake/lack of due dilligence, but DQ'd nonetheless)

The cahmpionship car made between 140.5 & 141.5 and the same TQ depending on which ECU was in.

The second place car made between 135-136 HP, and 138 TQ depending on which ECU was in.

The .5HP quote is apples to oranges.

If you want to see what that looks like, look here:

https://vimeo.com/49207880#t=436 Dan's car is the blue & white one in 3rd. Camera car is the eventual second place car. The green car is the championship winning car. [The shorter/edited version went belly up on Vimeo, sorry]

Guess I'm going to have to dyno the car.

Someone commented above that there were only a few votes against the Cap. We noticed before many of our fellow racers are not active on here. We should NOT use the votes here as an indication of acceptance until the series directors have reached out to all their racers - to either come here and review the discussion or to provide their input away from the web.

(For reference - I'm against the cap, but understand a) why it is being introduced b) how difficult it is to satisfy everyone scattered across the country with different racing conditions.)

(My opposition relates more to the fact a published number becomes a "Must Have" target more than anything else.)

944Racer72 wrote:


Thanks. As you can see from the other post, my car would not have fallen out at Nationals. My current motor was not on the dyno before Nationals. I relied on my A/F ratio gauge to tune it. It is now clear to me that the dyno is a sharper tool for that yet. Now, with thinner oil, and more tuning, it now would fall out. So, I will be going back to thicker oil, and may detune a bit to give myself some headroom.


@Jerry - is a 138HP target so bad? I think most can get close with a bit of tuning.

RD, I was seriously considering to not go to the 2013 Nationals unless I could afford to create a 140+ hp motor so I could compete with some really good drivers that have 140+ hp/tq, I also heard from a couple of others that they didn't want to go to Nationals for the same reason. Now I am comfortable knowing that I can be within a couple of h/p of the fastest motor. Dude, I can't imagine anybody with a 944 built with "the intent" not being able to get it under 140hp!!! If you were at 137hp, there is no way you just found 3+ hp from a lighter weight oil and if you did, just go back to the heavier oil and get more protection and better racing all with one stone. Your an important member of this club and I don't want to see you or anybody bail for no good reason. We should have the biggest and best field ever in 2013, the economy seems to be turning, word is now out that 944 spec is serious about keeping this equal and as cheap as possible.

Jerry, your rite, I was prepared to spend money I don't have with an unlimited target, even if it was 150hp if I could do it legally, but now my goal is 138 which is a big relief and doable from just about any fresh motor and affordable.

I will also likely attend nationals if I know we are all at or below 138.

The higher HP motors, and my perception of the related inequities (accurate or not ) helped keep me away the last two years.